Comments on: Should the HPV vaccine be mandatory? http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html Life on the pharm Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:29:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: jason http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-182978 jason Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:03:17 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-182978 you must be a idiot to say this should be mandatory, i would kill someone before i inject my kids or anyone in my family with gardisil or any such shot. the vaccine can cause DEATH among many other horrible sideaffects. My friends little niece fell in a coma from a gardasil shot, she was completely healthy. you must be a idiot to say this should be mandatory, i would kill someone before i inject my kids or anyone in my family with gardisil or any such shot. the vaccine can cause DEATH among many other horrible sideaffects. My friends little niece fell in a coma from a gardasil shot, she was completely healthy.

]]> By: Rikonline http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-181585 Rikonline Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:49:34 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-181585 What about a better educational program on the use of condoms and information about STDs, of course this doesnt cover those forced to have sex but the vaccine is not going to cover them from other diseases so is kind of silly to see it as a protection. What about a better educational program on the use of condoms and information about STDs, of course this doesnt cover those forced to have sex but the vaccine is not going to cover them from other diseases so is kind of silly to see it as a protection.

]]> By: Demosthenes http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-180199 Demosthenes Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:45:15 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-180199 This is a slippery slope. Giving the government permission to force the application of a patented vaccine is very dangerous. I am not for or against it. I simply caution against giving away that sort of power. Its much easier to lose freedom than it is to get it back and the last thing I want to see is a world where once a paid off government panel decides something should be mandatory, you see pharmaceutical company swat teams with dogs going through the schools with syringes. Sound far fetched? Maybe but why take the chance? This is a slippery slope.
Giving the government permission to force the application of a patented vaccine is very dangerous.
I am not for or against it. I simply caution against giving away that sort of power. Its much easier to lose freedom than it is to get it back and the last thing I want to see is a world where once a paid off government panel decides something should be mandatory, you see pharmaceutical company swat teams with dogs going through the schools with syringes.
Sound far fetched? Maybe but why take the chance?

]]> By: AS http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-178355 AS Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:14:34 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-178355 I do not think Gardasil should be mandatory. First of all, cancer-causing HPV is transmitted sexually. How about the girls who aren't going to be having a sexual relationship? Some of these laws require nine-years-old to be vaccinated! And Gardasil is 100% effective for women who are not exposed to HPV. Meaning?...they aren't sexually active, so of course it is effective. If you are in the 30% that Gardasil does not cover, the $360 you spent means nothing. Before lawmakers try to pass a law making Gardasil mandatory, they should make sure that the girls they are trying to vaccinate know what an STD is. I do not think Gardasil should be mandatory. First of all, cancer-causing HPV is transmitted sexually. How about the girls who aren't going to be having a sexual relationship? Some of these laws require nine-years-old to be vaccinated! And Gardasil is 100% effective for women who are not exposed to HPV. Meaning?…they aren't sexually active, so of course it is effective. If you are in the 30% that Gardasil does not cover, the $360 you spent means nothing.

Before lawmakers try to pass a law making Gardasil mandatory, they should make sure that the girls they are trying to vaccinate know what an STD is.

]]> By: Tammy http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-105193 Tammy Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:34:56 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-105193 The HPV vaccine sounds like it may actually save many lives and save much money in the long term. However, to mandate that girls only be vaccinated or not be allowed to enter school is ludicrous. Any sexually transmitted disease, obviously, takes two partners, and this includes all ages. It appears that once again, the females are research targets. And if they do not consent to this treatment, they will forfeit their right to an education. This is win/win situation for the males; they have a choice. The HPV vaccine sounds like it may actually save many lives and save much money in the long term. However, to mandate that girls only be vaccinated or not be allowed to enter school is ludicrous. Any sexually transmitted disease, obviously, takes two partners, and this includes all ages. It appears that once again, the females are research targets. And if they do not consent to this treatment, they will forfeit their right to an education. This is win/win situation for the males; they have a choice.

]]> By: RJS http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-20001 RJS Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:47:08 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-20001 I agree with your sentiments, Crystal, but the trouble with leaving it up to the general public is that people will almost invariably choose the path of least resistance: that is, the easiest way out. This is the same basic reason why Joe Average doesn't participate in 401k plans until it's too late to have a real impact on retirement savings. Until it's slapping him/her in the face, it's not a priority. Leaving herd immunity up Joe Average will result in a loss of said <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity" rel="nofollow">herd immunity</a>. I simply ask why we shouldn't create herd immunity for another, deadly disease. (HPV) (And no I'm not an undercover, pro-Merck blogger; I just think it's a good idea. :p) I agree with your sentiments, Crystal, but the trouble with leaving it up to the general public is that people will almost invariably choose the path of least resistance: that is, the easiest way out. This is the same basic reason why Joe Average doesn't participate in 401k plans until it's too late to have a real impact on retirement savings. Until it's slapping him/her in the face, it's not a priority.

Leaving herd immunity up Joe Average will result in a loss of said herd immunity.

I simply ask why we shouldn't create herd immunity for another, deadly disease. (HPV)

(And no I'm not an undercover, pro-Merck blogger; I just think it's a good idea. :p)

]]> By: Crystal http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-19985 Crystal Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:28:02 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-19985 I DO NOT believe that the vaccine for preventing HPV should be MANDATORY. But on the flip side, I would vaccinate my daughter (if i had one). I just shouldn't be mandatory. What's will lawmakers try to mandate next. It should be left up to the parents. The only down fall to not making it mandatory is those parents who would not vaccinate. I DO NOT believe that the vaccine for preventing HPV should be MANDATORY. But on the flip side, I would vaccinate my daughter (if i had one). I just shouldn't be mandatory. What's will lawmakers try to mandate next. It should be left up to the parents. The only down fall to not making it mandatory is those parents who would not vaccinate.

]]> By: RJS http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-13552 RJS Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:22:07 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-13552 Yes of course, Marie. I didn't mean "mandatory" in the sense of "Damn the consequences for anyone who might have an adverse reaction to it." Yes of course, Marie. I didn't mean "mandatory" in the sense of "Damn the consequences for anyone who might have an adverse reaction to it."

]]> By: Marie http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-13438 Marie Mon, 05 Feb 2007 02:16:32 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-13438 Vaccinations do cause severe side effects in rare cases. If vaccinations are mandatory there also must be an exception for those who are allergic to any of the ingredients. I for one was one of the 9 out of 100,000 who got arthritic symptoms from Gardasil. I was also the only person to get the vaccine who itched all over with red welps and got severely bruised feeling feet and hands so that I couldn't hold things or walk. So lets be a little more careful when we talk about making things that are injected into your body mandatory!!! Vaccinations do cause severe side effects in rare cases. If vaccinations are mandatory there also must be an exception for those who are allergic to any of the ingredients. I for one was one of the 9 out of 100,000 who got arthritic symptoms from Gardasil. I was also the only person to get the vaccine who itched all over with red welps and got severely bruised feeling feet and hands so that I couldn't hold things or walk. So lets be a little more careful when we talk about making things that are injected into your body mandatory!!!

]]> By: Polio vaccine saved $180 billion — what about HPV? :: OnThePharm http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-10570 Polio vaccine saved $180 billion — what about HPV? :: OnThePharm Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:17:33 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-10570 [...] I post this not because $180 billion is a huge number — it is — but rather because I can envision the HPV vaccine(s) having a similar economic impact should its mandatory use become widespread. [...] [...] I post this not because $180 billion is a huge number — it is — but rather because I can envision the HPV vaccine(s) having a similar economic impact should its mandatory use become widespread. [...]

]]> By: Diseases eliminated by vaccines making a triumphant return (in certain circles) :: OnThePharm http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-271 Diseases eliminated by vaccines making a triumphant return (in certain circles) :: OnThePharm Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:37:09 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-271 [...] Readers of this site know I’m a fan of vaccinations. I’ve talked about Gardasil, the new HPV vaccine from Merck quite a bit here. I personally think it should be mandatory until there’s a compelling reason for it not to be. But maybe we need to place more emphasis on the old standbys while the topic of vaccines is on the table. [...] [...] Readers of this site know I'm a fan of vaccinations. I've talked about Gardasil, the new HPV vaccine from Merck quite a bit here. I personally think it should be mandatory until there's a compelling reason for it not to be. But maybe we need to place more emphasis on the old standbys while the topic of vaccines is on the table. [...]

]]> By: Gardasil for all? Yes, please. :: OnThePharm http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-204 Gardasil for all? Yes, please. :: OnThePharm Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:29:07 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-204 [...] Just when I think I’m done writing about Gardasil for the time being — that nothing more can really be said — I read something new. This time it’s an OB/GYN who thinks the best way to protect people is by vaccinating everyone — not just the girls. As someone who thinks the vaccine should be mandatory for the approved age ranges, I concur with the doc’s opinion: Dr. Bradley Monk, associate professor in gynecologic oncology at the University of California at Irvine, said the best use of the vaccine would include giving it to girls and boys and all women and men, regardless of their individual risk factors. [...] [...] Just when I think I'm done writing about Gardasil for the time being — that nothing more can really be said — I read something new. This time it's an OB/GYN who thinks the best way to protect people is by vaccinating everyone — not just the girls. As someone who thinks the vaccine should be mandatory for the approved age ranges, I concur with the doc's opinion: Dr. Bradley Monk, associate professor in gynecologic oncology at the University of California at Irvine, said the best use of the vaccine would include giving it to girls and boys and all women and men, regardless of their individual risk factors. [...]

]]> By: RJS http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-158 RJS Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:09:51 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-158 Thanks for your comments, DrFaulken. It gives a distinctly human spin to the whole non-controversy. Thanks for your comments, DrFaulken. It gives a distinctly human spin to the whole non-controversy.

]]> By: DrFaulken http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html/comment-page-1#comment-157 DrFaulken Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:15:40 +0000 http://onthepharm.net/2006/07/should-the-hpv-vaccine-be-mandatory.html#comment-157 The majority of HPVs are <strong>not</strong> passed by sexual contact, just the ones that cause cancer. Of the many many HPVs, only about thirty are STDs, and only twelve of those can cause cervical cancer. As you stated, many people have genital HPV and don't even know it. Almost everyone has a non-genital HPV, such as HPV-5 that rarely manifests clinical symptoms in healthy people. If you're one of the "lucky" ones that is not immune to a genital HPV <strong>and</strong> show physical symptoms, then the road to irradicating warts is a long one. I'm in my third year of cryotreatment. While I'm down to one visit per quarter or maybe four months, it was every three weeks for awhile. Mr. Pickle does not like being frozen that frequently, but it was easy. I can't imagine the discomfort associated with treating a woman for the same symptoms. At an average cost of $300 a visit, my treatment has cost over $10,000. Luckily this was picked up by my insurance, but still, $10,000 is $10,000. The vaccine should be given to everyone. Males don't have the severe medical risk females do, but they are part of the infection chain and treating their symptoms costs a lot more than preventing them. The majority of HPVs are not passed by sexual contact, just the ones that cause cancer. Of the many many HPVs, only about thirty are STDs, and only twelve of those can cause cervical cancer.

As you stated, many people have genital HPV and don't even know it. Almost everyone has a non-genital HPV, such as HPV-5 that rarely manifests clinical symptoms in healthy people. If you're one of the "lucky" ones that is not immune to a genital HPV and show physical symptoms, then the road to irradicating warts is a long one.

I'm in my third year of cryotreatment. While I'm down to one visit per quarter or maybe four months, it was every three weeks for awhile. Mr. Pickle does not like being frozen that frequently, but it was easy. I can't imagine the discomfort associated with treating a woman for the same symptoms. At an average cost of $300 a visit, my treatment has cost over $10,000. Luckily this was picked up by my insurance, but still, $10,000 is $10,000.

The vaccine should be given to everyone. Males don't have the severe medical risk females do, but they are part of the infection chain and treating their symptoms costs a lot more than preventing them.

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